Pecans Future

April 7, 2009

in Shrubs & Trees

A couple of weeks ago I wrote about The Farmer discovering his pecan tree hadn't let him down like he thought, but actually had quite a few pecans on it the past year.

Those were the "Pecans Past", but we are also working on pecans for the future!  Yep, since The Farmer was going on and on about wanting more pecans, I bought him a couple more trees for his birthday. 

The Cave Geek supplied the manual labor and dug the massive holes needed for these pecan trees. 

Hole dug for one of the pecan trees.

They each came in two huge pots, stacked on top of the other.  In other words, the roots were two pots deep.  (Thought I had a picture of them, but can't find one anywhere... another senior moment...)

Considering the cost of a good sized pecan tree, I'd originally thought to purchase just one, but there was a problem with that.  Though we started out with two kinds of pecan trees here, there was only one left and I wasn't sure which variety the surviving tree was.  It had to be Schley or Colby... but which?

Now pecans are wind-pollinated and can cross-pollinate with trees up to 1/4 mile away and one of our neighbor's up the road a piece has a big pecan tree.  However, at the time I bought the new pecan trees, I didn't know our one little pecan would bear, nor did I know what type of pecan tree the neighbor has.

Since pecan varieties do only a fair job of self pollination because some varieties shed pollen early (before female flowers are receptive) while others shed late (after female flowers are receptive), that means it's best to have one of each kind of tree for the best pollination.

And that was the crux of the matter - were the two pecan trees of different varieties, or did they both shed pollen at the same time? 

I figured to be on the safe side, I'd better bite the bullet and buy one of each variety.  I mean, who wants to get 5 to 7 years down the road, and discover the pecan trees aren't bearing much or at all, so they must all be the same type!??!

I bought a  Pawnee pecan tree. which is an early shedding variety.

Pecan tree - Pawnee variety.

The nuts of the Pawnee Pecan tree are large with a thin shell, somewhat elongated and shell out 52% kernel.  The pecans on a Pawnee tree mature early, sometimes around the last of September or the first of October.

Then I also bought a Sumner pecan tree, which obviously, is the late shedding variety.

Pecan tree - Summer variety.

Yes, I know that label says "SumMer", but it's a misprint.  There was another label on the tree:

Pecan Sumner Label

And that's the correct one.  I doublechecked the different varieties, and there is NO SumMer variety, but there is a SumNer!

According to the nurseries, the Sumner Pecan tree can grow into an enormous tall tree that can produce hundreds of pounds of pecan nuts each year around Thanksgiving.  It's supposed to grow quickly, and shell out 55% kernel.

The Pawnee tree hasn't shown growth yet, but the Sumner is showing promise!

Buds on Sumner Pecan tree.

Hopefully, all three pecan trees will grow well this year!

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ceecee April 9, 2009 at 9:16 am

I planted a pecan tree last spring. My daughter asked for one for Christmas. It’s really just a stick, and probably won’t be big enough to produce pecans until she graduates college.

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Rural Writer April 9, 2009 at 12:17 pm

Yes, I bought bigger trees this time because I didn’t want to wait so long for the trees to start bearing pecans. It’s a lot more expensive, but it gives you a nice head start!

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Edker H Mcdonald June 27, 2009 at 6:00 pm

I married Mr WL Summer daughter . Hé developed The
Sumner Tree budded thousands and shipped them all
over ga. i have developed around 60 âcres but due to
âge turned them over to My son .

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Efdker H Mc Donald July 12, 2009 at 9:22 am

I have a real problem with the way some people are advertising the SUMNER
tree . To show the Sumner tree advertised as “Sumner (Western Schley)
The statement that SUMNER(WESTERN SCHLEY) might be the same tree is
a injustice to the Sumner tree. The statement tends to indicate that the two
tree are ruffly the same thing this is to some one that is not up on pecan trees.
This might be what is showing up in the DNA or how ever they check trees, but
if you know any thing about the two trees you will see that they are not close to
the same tree. Like no of nuts per lb, meat per lb., craking hold, resistiance to
scab. These are a few of the reason why Mr W.L. Sumner picked the tree and
promoted it for years. He was smart enough to see that the tree had what he
wanted and that he could not find it in another tree. The printing of the
“Sumner (Western Shlley) might cause a lots of people that do no know the
difference to set out Western Schley and end up with nothing like the Sumner.
If you will check the specks on the two pecans you will find that there is no
compairson of the two . The Sumner would be picked every time

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Rural Writer July 12, 2009 at 11:48 am

That’s some interesting informaton about the Sumner tree! And thanks for sending the other information. I’ll be putting it up on this blog in the next week or two (I’m kind of swamped right now getting ready to go to Canada). I appreciate you taking the time to comment and write!!!

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Edker Mc Donald July 14, 2009 at 2:26 pm

I just have to make one more post after I saw where some was rooked my some
nursey or person. Never put a pecan tree in the ground that has
been grown IN A POT the tap root has been going round and round. You will
have a runt of a pecan tree . You would have to of see some set out
about 15 years ago. Don’t set a tree that the tap root has been cut off.
The pecan tree needs to have the tap root in tact when it is set out
and have the hole deep enough that you don’t curl the tap root around.
if the tap root is messed up the root system will never go
deep enough to pich up moisture. You need to see the difference in
the root system of the two when they are bull dozed up after
they are a out ten yea s old.
One root system will be just on top of the ground and the other
will show that the root system went on down in the ground. the
root will break off’.
Sôme people wonder why there tree never Makes very Many
Pecans. Watch in buying tall young trees like 10 ft. Be sure the
tap root has not been cut off. You might want to go to
Blogger.com pecan and I have some blog on pecans and will have more
as I have time
Edker Mc Donald

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Edker Mcdonald December 2, 2009 at 7:48 pm

Would like to find some one who has some farm raised old english bantem(quail) .they need to b e usto being around Dogs. We had two ,just what we wanted ,but when we left to go to Atlanta to have a pace maker put in my wife , as we. Left to goto Atlanta we saw the little roaster. Named Rodney setting on the back of our other car crowing, When we got hack Home the dogs had caught Rodney and Mary the hen.I took Rodneys picture and will try to put it on . If any has any that is usto dogs let me know and I will come get them and pay what ever I need to

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Edker Mcdonald January 16, 2010 at 7:17 pm

mcdonaldspointe Someone tell me why we havé a Hosp. Ship setting in a harbor in USA that ittakes4 days for it to pull up Anchor to go when it is needed. less than 5 seconds ago

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Edker Mcdonald July 11, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Back in the early 1940 s I. Got interested in Pomegranates and got a total of four . My interest in Pomegranate’s was sparked by a large tree she had in her back yard. I remmber them as being redish on the out side and full of redish juicy seed on the in side. I planted the four along a ditch. It was about 3years before they had any fruit,but when they did they were just. Like I remmber them at my grandmothers when I was about 6 years old. Pomegranates are one of the oldiest fruit trees known, and one of the most treasured fruits in ancient days. It was used for many of the ailments of the day. A whole pomegranate was found in a tomb that was 3000 years ago. It has been said that the pomegranate was the fruit that Adam and Eve eat in the garden of eve. I said all of this to say that my interest has been rekindled by all the new uses that pomegranate are being used for. There are people experminting with all kind of pomegranate, Iran,Rusian, but no one knows which is best. I know what the old pomegranates of my grandmother and the ones that I have will produceand how good they were . After checking I am lucky that my four are still living . They are covered by large oak trees and bushes,but all four were still alive. I cutt about 700 cutting and set them out to root. It seem that most of them rooted. I have moved one out in the opening where it will get the sun and hope to move the other three this winter. Would like to hear from any one with interest in them

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